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You don't need to comment on them telling the uploader that what they have uploaded is incorrect.

You can send the group a note and we will let the person know if there are any mistakes on their application, or their submission.

You do not need to comment on their deviation.

I have seen a few of the more well-known members post antagonizing and insulting comments towards fairly new members for not following the rules. This is unacceptable.



If you feel a submission for PMD-E has an error, send us a group note. Do not harass the artist. Do not argue with the artist. Do not leave them passive aggressive comments. Do not tell them they need to change anything. That is not your job.
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:iconjustcallmelel:
JustcallmeLel Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
Whoops, I thought, try to sort it out before, so Admins don't have too, Won't happen Again. My Bad...
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ShinyVanillaTwilight Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
By the way im sorry i said what i did on an app i forgot i was just trying to help :icondesucraiplz:
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frostybiite Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Student Digital Artist
oh god...I'm really sorry..
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F-lame Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thank you vuv
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AngelheartTheWarrior Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh shoot... I didn't see this journal. D: I am so sorry...
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TwilitIfrit Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012
I accidentally broke this rule umu. I wasn't harassing the person though, I told them the problem politely.
No more commenting on apps for me uou;;
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Kitty--RawR Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Student Artist
I'm sorry~ I didn't know
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:icontayzonrai:
Tayzonrai Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Forgive me, I have unknowingly defied this journal!
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UltimateSassMaster Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student General Artist
lol, this was posted back in may, and a lot of people still corrected others apps and all. i guess thats why you updated it though
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MissFluffyKitty Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Anyone, other than a mod, caught correcting an app is redirected here. The only difference now is that it's in the new updated FAQs. Those who bother to read the whole thing carefully will know of this.
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PMDE-Miles Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2012
Forgive me, I have sinned!

I had completely forgotten about this journal and just had it linked back to me. I'll try to remember this time. = x
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SmudgeyPie Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah. it embarrasses others tooh :/
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CommanderBagel Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2012
I'd like to thank you for helping me. ;3; Though, I appreciated them pointing out the flaws, and I HAVE fixed it... I hope. I'd like to have someone check the update and see if I STILL missed something.
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MarlKitty Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012
Yeah I understand not everyone will take offense at being told they've made a mistake, but there are many people who do! This is just to cut down on the number of hurt feelings is all.
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LeafeonFan0001 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Student Artist
i am safe!
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Dynamo-soldierBB Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
and yet you left a comment on my app saying it's wrong
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MarlKitty Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
Yes, I am an admin of this group, so the responsibility to point out errors in submissions is mine.
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Dynamo-soldierBB Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
oh...my bad,sory bout that,sir.
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PeculiarIceCube Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to agree with this
When I first joined the group I filled out a very incorrect(legitimately everything was wrong) application
and later I filled out two that were both slightly incorrect(the only thing I did was give my explorers accessories that were unavailable to them)
every time I was harassed by several other group members
of course none of those teams are in use anymore but still what some of the people in this group say can be really hurtful and inappropriate.
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CunningCorvid Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
As a person who has run groups before and also moderated on a few forums when I had more free time, I applaud you for putting this up. People, I understand that folks can make mistakes, especially if they're still new and learning the ropes. But that's no excuse to be rude and callous to folks here...

If you want a perfect example of rude and callous members... well... unfortunately the staff of PKMNcrossing are a culprit. They're quite elitist too. But enough of my badmouthing... just providing an example. Do forgive me if that was out of place
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LunaDarkridge11 Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012  Student Filmographer
Finally! It's been driving me nuts seeing comments like those on the applications. (Including one of mine.)
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NoaQep Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Professional General Artist
I was never insulted--I actually got through with a lot of help thanks to a user in my earlier days, when I was a tad confused by the rules at the time. <D; With that member's help, I've been able to reach where I am today without any bumps.

It's sad to know not everyone gets that chance, to have someone nice help out. :( Kinda makes me sad that the more well-known, respected artists stooped to such a level as to actually downright insult the newer members than to help them out. It's not like they weren't newbies at one point. >:
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MileniaKitsuvee Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
U.U I admit I did it once but I never insulted the person. I only told them that the pic they had posted wasn't appropriate for the gallery they chose. I just thought since there's like 4k+ members it would get over looked or clog the notes to the group. But I wont do it from now on, I'll note you guys then.

For future reference: Should we note the group page or an admin/helper?

At least the journal cleared things up for many and for those who weren't being nice to new comers.
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LynionPoe Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Professional Writer
Noting the group is better, as then it's seen by all the admins and such.
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MileniaKitsuvee Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
ok c:
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Karitas94 Featured By Owner May 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I got someone too who telled me that it was incorrect but i´m not mad at him because he was very nice to me explained everything without insulting he told it me very kind what was wrong and i aprecciate people who act so kind like him/her :D
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Cheezeisnice Featured By Owner May 30, 2012
Thanks for posting this, I regret having done this once or twice myself without really thinking. It's really nice to know that the admins are staying on the ball about these things, though. :D
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MiyakuBubbles Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I was wondering, though, if it would be possible to release a journal too reiterate who actually is on the admin and helper staff since there are some members who don't realize or bother to find out who they are. It bothers me to see ones such as the.....totodile helper (forgot his name) being insulted when he(she?) exercises his authority.
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LynionPoe Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Professional Writer
Hello, I am the one you refer to! We have a list on the front page, actually, so really we should be known. And I am a she, since you wondered. :D
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MiyakuBubbles Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yes! You! I saw you on Tumblr but I didn't know you gender, sorry. But, anyway, I realize that you guys are listed on the page, but apparently not everyone knows or maybe even cares, so while I know it probably is a waste of time, I was thinking it would be a great thing to reference to if anyone objects to your word again.
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FlamesVoices Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Thanks for this alert-- It happened to me once or twice! :C
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:iconhipakipa:
Hipakipa Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thank you so much! People have been leaving such mean comments on new members apps!
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:iconlonraa:
Lonraa Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pmd-e just became 100x more welcoming. ;w;;
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Christina-the-otter Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank God for this. I was about to go mad!
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KestrelStarYT Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
.......
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Dansenhedgehog Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Student General Artist
THANKS YOU SO MUCH!!!! when I first joined I got a few things wrong and people slaughtered me about it like crazy at first honestly I wanted to cry because I felt so hurt by their mean words, I was brand new for goodness sakes I did not know and they acted like I had been their since the beginning!
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personqwer Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Dansenhedgehog Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012  Student General Artist
Hey i did not mean you okay
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Sanngot Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I sometimes find myself looking at these negative comments (not recently I admit) and feeling compelled to post a more positive comment while still advising a change or two so they can be judged. There were times that I have not actually followed through on this. But there were a few times that I did. I could probably count them on my hand.

I love seeing new members join, so I try to make my comment a welcoming one. That, and I make it a point to provide a link to the rules and then say if the person has any further questions to feel free to ask them in the comment section on the main page.

Of course I will stop if it is a task better left to the staff of the group. But I still sometimes really really wanna help steer those entering in the right direction.
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MarlKitty Featured By Owner May 29, 2012
That task is better left to staff.
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drakke148 Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I usually tell them what was wrong with their apps, and for example, when they have the natures and traits/characteristic wrong, I sended them a link to a list to help them. I think form now on I will just not do a thing.

now, this may bring another problem, a lot of notes to the group because of the same app or submision being wrong. I mean, "how can I know that someone already sent a note to the group about that app?".
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:iconmarlkitty:
MarlKitty Featured By Owner May 29, 2012
All you need to do is send the group a note if you feel a submission has an error. There is nothing more to it.
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Lazyhog Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Wait, people DO insult new members? I have found a few applications with mistakes, but I just tell the creator to fix them or their team would be technically illegal :B

Oh well, sending a note to the group it's much more practical. Thank you for telling us, Marl.
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Ludjia Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
It doesn't need to be insulting for someone to feel unwelcome. Even if all the comments mean well, a person who is a little selfconcious or even just fine might feel they aren't good enough, or not welcome if the very first thing they submit keeps getting comments to be fixed or isn't fitting somehow.
It isn't that important that the applications follow the rules and be all by the book straight off, it is more important to have a intergtarting community that make PMDE a fun experience, in my opinion. Of course for the purpose of the stories, following the rules is important for consistency, but I imagine they are there more for management and balancing issues. A good storyteller doesn't need a specific moveset to make a good story.
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MeSquirrel Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Me: people do that?
Curse: we naturally live in a world of violence Yoko, so yes people do things like that.
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creamuu Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Oh man, thank you. c: I was one of those people who joined and didn't know what 'badges' were or where they were on the template. And I didn't know much about eggs or accessories or what the 'Ms' were. And then I got those kind of comments with the "fix this" or "fix that". It did make me feel un-welcome to the group, but it's ok now. c: Becuase I think... I pretty much have everything done . o3o This is long. LOL.
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Christina-the-otter Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Lolz me too.
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:iconcreamuu:
creamuu Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
yup c:
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lyndsey96 Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah.... what counts as antagonizing! I feel really bad now! I was just trying to help. I apologize for being like that.
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:iconlynionpoe:
LynionPoe Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Professional Writer
Just note the group if there's an issue, and it will be fine.
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